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1065: Andrew Bustamante | The Psychology of Espionage Part Two

1065: Andrew Bustamante | The Psychology of Espionage Part Two

Update: 2024-10-172
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Spycraft utilizes psychology more than gadgets. Ex-CIA officer Andrew Bustamante reveals the human side of intelligence gathering and deception. [Pt. 2/2 — find Pt. 1 here!]


What We Discuss with Andrew Bustamante:



  • The psychology of espionage and the process of recruiting assets, with an emphasis on the importance of building relationships and trust.

  • The CIA uses a process called SADRAT (Spot, Assess, Develop, Recruit, Handle, and Terminate) to develop intelligence sources, which is similar to sales techniques and relationship building.

  • The concept of public, private, and secret lives, highlighting how understanding and accessing someone's secret life is crucial for intelligence work.

  • The strengths and operational styles of the CIA, Russia's SVR, Israel's Mossad, and China's MSS.

  • Anxiety, often viewed negatively in society, can be a valuable asset in intelligence work and other high-performance fields. By reframing anxiety as a potential superpower, individuals can harness its benefits to drive success in their personal and professional lives.

  • And much more — be sure to check out part one of this conversation here if you haven’t already!


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1065: Andrew Bustamante | The Psychology of Espionage Part Two

1065: Andrew Bustamante | The Psychology of Espionage Part Two

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